Creationism in VUSD schools urged by our ANTI public education friends

Vista Watchdog 1 is one of the most vocal critics of public education who posts at the North County Times. Recently he proposed the teaching of creationism in our science classrooms just as the 1992- 1994 school extremist school board wanted. They were recalled for that among other abuses of good VUSD schools as they tried to insert their narrow political and religious agenda into our fact based public education classrooms.

Vista Watchdog 1 wrote comments in support of "little god" creationism on January 27 at 12:18pm at the following URL :

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/vista/article_1c99fa50-70cd-5a0a-aae5-f4a4827282b2.html?mode=comments

Here are some of his comments for the entire post see above.

...you would not have wanted the Board to "study" the legality of offering as an optional addition to the curriculum, Creationism. What harm studying? At least there would have been solid data to either support or disprove your argument that such offerings would be a waste. As it stands, since no study has been done, there is no data and only speculation pertaining to this subject. However, considering that so many Private Christian schools in the area do in fact have Creationism as part of their curriculum in addition to Evolution...,


My response to him:

On January 27 at 12:18 pm VWdog demonstrates once again that he does not understand what science is or how it works when he posts the following, "you would not have wanted the Board to "study" the legality of offering as an optional addition to the curriculum, Creationism. What harm studying? At least there would have been solid data to either support or disprove your argument that such offerings would be a waste"

Creationism as commonly used has been defined by our little god Christian friends as a dogma of their radical extremist branch of Christianity. The "little god" Christians believe that the god of the universe is a little tiny 6000 year old god who is a trickster that only makes the earth and universe appear to be older than they really are.

Traditional Christians who respect God and rational folks everywhere know that no one would create annual sedimentation records like the Green River Formation with more than six MILLION undisturbed YEARLY layers one on top of the other to fool us. What purpose in that? We also know that no honest deity would create "light in transit"* coming from sources 10 to 12 billion light years away to just appear to be 10 to 12 billion years old.

We cannot teach little god creationism or any other sort of creationism in our FACT based public school class rooms because there would be religious wars.

Science can only be what is factually observed and the inference those facts lead us to. No science is dogmatic. All science is subject to change as new facts are discovered.

VWdog does not recognize that the greatest excitement in science is generated by folks who disprove or overturn conventional scientific views. These scientists get Nobel Prizes and prestigious jobs at fine universities.

If there were factual evidence for the little god of our creationist friends, this fact would be heralded by scientists and studied by them. They would want to know how the star light was made to look billions of years old when it was really 6000 years. They would want to know exactly when this event happened exactly. Does the light from sources just a little older than 6000 years have different qualities than light from sources less than 6000 years old? Do the yearly sediment records at Green River, Utah suddenly change after 6000 years so that the rest of the yearly layers are different in some way, etc.


*The phrase about god creating light "in transit" to make it appear to be older than 6000 years was given to me by Deidre Holiday one of the three member extremist school board majority from 1992 to 1994 during a discussion I, a fellow Christian, had with her after a special "Common Ground"meeting in about February 1992, organized by then superintendent, Rene Townsend, between VTA leaders and the school board. Friction had already been building between the three member extremists majority and the teachers. Rene was trying to help cool off the situation. This meeting happened a month or so before the VTA joined the recall effort.